Agenda and draft minutes
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Declarations of Interest Members will be asked to make any declarations of interest in respect of items on this Agenda. Minutes: A general dispensation was in place for Committee Members in relation to the following item: Council’s Electoral Cycle Consultation. |
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To confirm the minutes of the meeting held on 10 September 2024. Minutes: The minutes of the meeting held on 10 September 2024 were agreed as an accurate record. |
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Chair's Urgent Business To receive reports on business which, in the opinion of the Chair, should be brought forward for urgent consideration. Minutes: There were no items of Chair’s urgent business. |
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Plymouth City Council Audit Plan 2023/24 PDF 5 MB Minutes: Jackson Murray (Grant Thornton) introduced the report and highlighted:
a)
Ethical standards meant that lead auditors rotated every five years
and Jackson Murray would be taking over from Paul Dossett from
2023/24 accounts onwards; b)
The backstop date was 13 December 2024 for all accounts up to and
including 2022/23; c)
The 2023/24 audit had been underway since September 2024 and was
making good progress; d) The backstop for 2023/24 would be February 2025.
Supported by Carolyn Haynes (Acting Head of Finance), in response to questions, the following was reported:
e)
Valuation of council land and buildings was a common risk due to
the high value; f)
The Council was required to estimate what amount would be needed to
pay out to all future pensioners should the pension liabilities
crystallise and the auditors needed to ensure the assumptions were
reasonable; g)
Committee Members would be provided with current asset valuation
information; h)
The Council did not have any assets with negative value; i) There was no update on the capitalisation directive, and if there was an update, it would be shared with Committee Members. |
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Auditor's Annual Report (Interim Version) for the year ended 31 March 2024 PDF 6 MB Minutes: Jackson Murray (Grant Thornton) introduced the report and highlighted:
a)
The final version was expected to be issued in three months’
time; b)
Value for money findings must be reported by November each
year; c)
Two significant weaknesses had been identified in the same report
for the 2022/23 financial year;
i.
Financial sustainability and Grant Thornton had recommended that
the Council should update its Medium-Term Financial Strategy (MTFS)
which remained open but an updated MTFS had been presented to
Cabinet on 11 November 2024;
ii.
Need to improve economy efficiency and effectiveness in
Children’s Services following an Ofsted improvement
notice; d)
There was evidence that the Council was discussing savings
transformation regularly but it needed to be more clear on how
different programs were being pulled together and ensure that the
transformation that was required to maintain financial
sustainability could be evidenced; e)
Improvement recommendations related to sensitivity analysis
required within the MTFS and a need to report the split between
recurrent and non-recurrent savings as well as the need for a
review of the Corporate Risk Register and reporting high level
improvements made following fraud investigations each
year; f)
Procurement readiness action plan needed to be reported to the
Committee ensuring the Council was ready for the implementation of
new procurement policy in 2025. In response to questions, the following was reported:
g)
A link to the MTFS report that had gone
to Cabinet would be shared with Committee Members; h)
The MTFS would be reviewed by Grant Thornton; i)
The publication of the MTFS had been delayed by the General
Election in July 2024; j)
Grant Thornton would not provide a detailed expectation for budget
setting, it would not be appropriate in relation to national
budget, though this is provided more generally by LGA and other
forums and organisations which could be shared; k) Procurement Readiness Action Plan would be added to the work programme.
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Counter Fraud Half Year Report PDF 150 KB Additional documents: Minutes: Ken Johnson (Counter Fraud Services Manager, Devon Audit Partnership) introduced the report and highlighted:
a)
Following a recommendation from Grant Thornton, more detail would
be provided in counter fraud reports moving forward; b)
A new offense of ‘failure to prevent fraud’ had been
created, but the team were still waiting for guidance on this from
Government and the risk would need to be considered and an updated
Anti-Bribery and Corruption
Policy would
be brought to Committee for approval; c) Savings were as expected for the time of year.
The Committee expressed their thanks to Ken for his continued good work. |
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Internal Audit Half Year Report 2024/25 PDF 169 KB Additional documents: Minutes: Louise Clapton (Audit Manager, Devon Audit Partnership) introduced the report and highlighted:
a)
The Head of Internal Audit mid-year assurance opinion was
reasonable assurance on 30 September 2024:
i.
100% of audit assurance opinions were of reasonable assurance and
100% of grants were certified without amendment;
ii.
There were two limited assurance audit opinions at draft when the
report was published and whilst this would affect percentages, it
would not affect the overall opinion; b)
Progress against delivery the internal audit plan was at
67%; c)
There were two additions to the plan agreed previously: Adult
social care client contribution income and the LGA Improvement and
Assurance Framework at the request of senior management; d)
The scope of the budget management audit would be extended to
include valuation against CIPFA’s financial management
code; e)
Homelessness had been deferred in order to complete work on the
adult social care client contribution income; f) Performance management was replaced with work around the Council’s family of companies governance.
The Committee agreed to:
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Note the mid-year assurance opinion statement; 2. Note the findings. |
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Internal Audit Management Action Tracker Q2 2024/25 PDF 151 KB Additional documents: Minutes: Louise Clapton (Audit Manager, Devon Audit Partnership) introduced the report and highlighted:
a)
This tool was used to track actions of limited assurance to monitor
and ensure management actions were taken appropriately and
promptly; b)
This report was unchanged from Q1; c)
Of the 123 management actions agreed 41% have been implemented and
of the outstanding actions 48% were overdue, but 88% of those
actions were partially implemented; d) Good engagement from across the Council in recommendations but some actions took longer than expected.
In response to questions, the following was explained:
e)
Work looking into adult social care debt management was ongoing and
would be reported on in more detail at a future meeting; f) Using external legal support for adult social care debt management was not being considered as an option.
The Committee agreed
to: 1. Note the implementation of internal audit recommendations. |
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Treasury Management Mid-Year Report 2024/25 PDF 155 KB Additional documents: Minutes: Wendy Eldridge (Lead Accountancy Manager) introduced the report and highlighted:
a)
There had been very little movement since the last report provided
to the Committee; b)
There had been higher investments made in money market
funds; c)
The first £5 million LOBO (Lender option borrower option)
call in had been made in August 2024 and there was one remaining
LOBO call-in for 2024/25; d)
LOBO’s had been very popular but now the strategy was to pull
out when advisable because of high interest rates; e)
The borrowing strategy was a challenge but lower interest rates had
begun to be secured; f)
New borrowing continued to be a challenge during a period of
interest volatility; g)
Some borrows would only lend to authorities who had their latest
accounts signed off, a position Plymouth City Council was not
in; h)
Savings in this area resulted in a forecast underspend for this
area; i) There had been compliance against prudential indicators except for non-compliance to prudential indicator for interest rate exposure through upper limit on fixed interest rate exposure being exceeded.
In response to questions it was reported:
j)
The average interest rates were between 1.37-2.54%; k)
A short-term approach was being taken towards interest rates at the
time because a reduction was predicted for the future and this was
under constant review; l) There would always be cash-rich authorities who were keen to lend, but some had moved from lending to borrowing authorities because of varying circumstances, so the market of lending authorities was smaller.
The Committee agreed to:
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Note the Mid-year Treasury Management Report; 2. Note non-compliance to prudential indicator for interest rate exposure through upper limit on fixed interest rate exposure being exceeded. |
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Treasury Management Strategy 2025/26 PDF 154 KB Additional documents: Minutes: Wendy Eldridge (Lead Accountancy Manager) introduced this report and highlighted:
a)
The Strategy included documents for the
2025/26 were only just made available and so the interest rate and
economic forecast was subject to change; b)
The approach for the Investment Strategy
was: security, liquidity and yield; c)
The Buying Strategy was a balance between
securing the lowest cost of interest and ensuring the cost will
cover the period of funds required; d)
Prudential indicators were required under
the Treasury Management Code of Practice, and set out the
operational boundaries of borrowing; e)
The report focussed on the Property
Regeneration Fun and the return from investments into economic
development property; f)
The report would be updated to include
the economic interest rate forecast released by Arlingclose in
November 2024. In response to questions, the following was explained:
g)
The International Financial Reporting
Standards (IFRS) 16 accounting rules had changed which was
reflected in the report in changes in Private Finance Initiative
(PFI) liabilities and leases; h)
All borrowing costs were included in the
Medium Term Financial Strategy (MTFS); i)
The Capital Investments had been analysed
to ensure there would be growth within the Council in future
years; j)
Grant funding
would be used to alleviate some borrowing; k) The report included a Liability Benchmark Chart.
The Committee agreed to:
1. Recommend the Treasury Management Strategy 2025/26, that incorporated the authorises limits, operational boundaries and prudential indicators, to City Council for approval.
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Capital Financing Strategy 2025/26 PDF 154 KB Additional documents: Minutes:
Wendy Eldridge (Lead Accountancy Manager) introduced this report and highlighted:
a)
In 2024/25 additional governance would be
added for projects going through the Capital Programme Officer
Group (CPOG);
b)
The Five Year Programme totalled nearly
£373 million and highlighted that just under £92
million would be financed through Corporate Borrowing;
c)
The borrowing requirement would be
accommodated within the MTFS; d) £124 million of the Programme would be financed through service borrowing.
In response to questions, it was explained: e) The five year programme was subject to change and this was reflected in the report.
The Committee agreed:
1. To recommend the Capital Financing Strategy to Council for approval.
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Risk Management Monitoring Report Additional documents: Minutes: Ross Jago (Head of Governance, Performance and Risk) introduced the report and highlighted the following points:
a)
There were 18 risks in total on the
Strategic Risk Register;
b)
Three risks had been removed from the
Strategic Risk Register in the last quarter, including lack of
adult social care workforce, IT supply chain complaints, and Senior
Leadership capacity; c) The top three risks on the Strategic Risk Register included: cyber-attacks, finance and Integrated Commissioning.
The Committee agreed to note the report.
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Performance and Accountability Framework Minutes: Ross Jago (Head of Governance, Performance and Risk) introduced the report and highlighted the following points:
a)
The Data Quality Strategy had been agreed
by the Corporate Management Team and gone through the internal
governance processes and would be brought before the Committee in
the future; b) Work was being done with the new Chief Operating Officer to implement AI across data pipelines to ensure they were robust and consistent. This would inform the Data to Intelligence Strategy.
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Committee Self-Assessment Minutes: Ross Jago (Head of Governance, Performance and Risk) introduced the item and highlighted the following:
a) Members, substitutes, and former Members of the Committee had received a questionnaire to complete, and answers would be provided to Council in 2025. |
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Council's Electoral Cycle Consultation PDF 143 KB Additional documents:
Minutes: Liz Bryant (Head of Legal) introduced the report and highlighted the following points:
a)
The report had been before the Committee
previously, but was brought back as the consultation period had
ended;
b)
The consultation was carried out over an
eight week period between 24 July 2024 and 22 September 2024,
asking the public to choose between whole council elections or to
keep the current system;
c)
7,055 responses were received for the
consultation, and there were four stakeholder responses from the
University of Plymouth, The Police and Crime Commissioner, Plymouth
Community Homes and Plymouth Marjon University; d) The responses were as follows: 4,063 wanted to change to whole council elections, 2,443 wanted no change, and 545 had no preference.
Caroline Marr (Senior Policy Advisor)
added:
e)
Face to face groups had been run with the
Youth Parliament;
f)
Councillor sessions had been run for the
public to ask questions and find out more about the electoral
cycle;
g)
The consultation was promoted through the
Council’s Communications Team and Elections Team; h) Democracy and stability were the key themes that emerged from the consultation analysis.
In response to questions, it was explained: i) Validation was done to ensure against duplicates in the consultation, however as this was an open survey there was no way to ward against the public providing their opinion more than once and providing different answers.
The Committee agreed to the following
recommendations:
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To receive the electoral cycle
consultation summary report at Appendix A and recommend that the
City Council determined at its meeting on 25 November 2024 whether
to make a change to its electoral cycle arrangements;
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To note the amendments to the Council
Size Submission at Appendix B arising from a change in forecasting
date to 2031; 3. To authorise the Monitoring Officer and Chief Executive to make any further minor forecasting amendments necessary and to finalise the addendum required setting out the electoral cycle decision prior to submitting the response to the LGBCE. |
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Minutes: The Committee agreed to note its Tracking Decisions document. |
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Minutes: The Committee agreed to add adult social care debt management to the work programme.
The Committee agreed to note its work programme. |